Pull’em up, pay up, or go to jail: No more saggy pants, it’s the law

Signs in Opa-Locka, Florida warn residents about the saggy pants law.

City of Ocala is now a saggy free zone.

Ocala, Florida — In May of 2014, Ocala Post  told you about City of Ocala Councilwoman Mary Rich announcing that she wanted an ordinance put in place that would ban saggy pants in Ocala.

Rich said she – as well as other citizens in Marion County – do not like seeing young men and women walking around with their buttocks exposed.

“I have seen them do it in front of old people. I don’t consider myself old — maybe a little past middle age. They don’t have any respect for anybody when they do that,” Rich said. “It’s disgusting when you see them with their pants all down around their knees almost.”

Submitted photos from the beach town

Submitted photos from the beach town

Well, her wish is now a reality.

The Ocala City Council voted 4-0 on Tuesday to pass the ordinance.

The ordinance will prohibit anyone from wearing pants two inches below their natural waist in a way that exposes underwear or “crack.”

Councilwoman Rich, a black woman herself, said it does not matter what color you are and wishes people would stop trying to turn it into a race issue. “It’s disgusting no matter what color you are,” she said.

Ocala is not the first city in Florida to ban saggy pants. The city of Opa-Locka, Florida was actually first city to enact the ban in 2007. Officials in Opa-Locka said the ordinance has been working great.

Daytona Beach, Florida doesn’t have a ban – as of yet – on saggy pants. However, they were one of the first cities in Florida to ban “thongs” being worn in public.

City officials from, Opa-Locka, Lynwood, West Palm Beach and Cocoa Beach, Florida say they are fed up with the saggy pants culture. They say it’s disgraceful and it is teaching the much younger children that it’s OK to walk around with their underwear hanging out.

An official with the Black Mental Health Alliance out of Massachusetts said, “My children and I visited a theme park in Florida and we were disgusted. My children were subjected to a lot of indecency involving saggy pants. Some were young girls and others were young men, two of which were not wearing underwear….exposing their ‘cracks’.”

He said youth today should have more respect for themselves, especially girls. He went on to say, it is no secret that this type of culture is linked to drugs, gangs and other criminal activity. Our misguided youth call it “Profiling,” while I call it a statistical fact. And it is a gross misconception that the “Saggy Pants” culture is just a “black thing.”  Additionally, he said, the “Penguin” walk also causes hip and other joint problems.

The fine for wearing saggy pants that show a person’s “crack” or underwear range from $25.00 to $500.00, depending on where you are, for first time offenders. Habitual offenders could actually be arrested and charged with indecent exposure.

Officials say the law is not just limited to “saggy pants” per-say, but also to those that wear “skinny jeans” far below the waist line. Officials say men that wear “skinny jeans” below the waist line tend to show more of an “inappropriate area” than women do.

In Wildwood, New Jersey saggy pants have been ban on the boardwalk. And the ordinance doesn’t just apply to saggy pants; it also applies to women that walk around it cut up jeans, skinny jeans that do not fit (revealing “crack”) or bathing suits that practically leave nothing to the imagination. While most men consider women that wear pants that show their “crack” sexy, residents say they are sick and tired of the young youth literally showing their a**es.

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Outfits ban on New Jersey Boardwalks

Sondra, a long time resident of New Jersey said, “They (officials) do make a good point.  After all, not everyone on the beach or boardwalk will have a beautiful body type. How would you like to stare at muffin tops and plumber cracks while trying to enjoy your day off?”

New Jersey Mayor Ernest Troiano said, “Some visitors (who I imagine to be old and still upset about Elvis’ hip thrusts) have complained about looking at people’s rear ends ‘hanging out’ while walking the boardwalk.”

Local New Jersey Pizzeria, Guilio’s Pizza has also put a sign in their window regarding sagging pants.

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Multiple McDonalds locations in Texas have also ban saggy pants from being worn in their establishments. Most have posted signs in their windows.

Ocala Post reached out to McDonalds Corporate to inquire about the policy:

They told Ocala Post that corporate does not have any comment, but said, “Owner-operated franchises can customize the experience for their customers as they deem necessary.

The Houston health department said, “It’s a health issue. Why would you want to touch a counter or sit in a seat where someone else’s underwear or “crack” has been?

One customer that was denied service at a Houston , Texas restaurant tried to sue the establishment, but lost. The Houston judge said indecent exposure is not a new law, and saggy pants that show a persons butt or underwear is not protected under Freedom of Speech or Freedom of Expression. It is simply disrespectful he said.

Many officials across multiple states do agree on one thing; criminals that wear saggy pants and try to run from a crime scene often trip and fall, getting themselves caught.

In Orlando, Florida, a robbery was foiled after Anthony Garcia, 31, tripped over his baggy pants as he was attempting to flee after snatching a cash drawer from a church gift shop. Orlando Police said it made their job a lot easier.

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Bank robber in Ohio trips over his pants

In Columbus, Ohio, an armed bank robber was caught after his saggy pants caused him trip and fall on the dye pack, setting it off. Security footage showed the robber dropping the money bag and fleeing the scene waddling like a penguin. He was later caught with his pants down, literally. Columbus Police said saggy pants are a criminals “kryptonite.”

Billboards are beginning to pop up in cities across the U.S in an attempt to promote the saggy pants ban.

However not everyone is in support of the ban. The NAACP says the ban targets the black community and hinders their development.

Eric Adams, a black senator from New York, said he is tired of the NAACP making everything about race. He said the ban is about instilling moral principles into our children, children of all races.

Adams said, “I am fed up with today’s youth walking around with “low slung” or saggy pants that exposes their underwear and often times their butt crack. It is offensive and represents a serious lack of respect from our youth today.” Adams said that today’s youth needs to realize that the trend of wearing saggy pants originated from inside prisons in the late ’80s early ’90s. Adding, “I hope one day there will be a nationwide ban on saggy pants.”

Earlier this year, Jamale Lamar Whitaker, 22, realizing he couldn’t shake Marion County Sheriff’s Deputy Crawford during a high speed chase, jumped out of [his] car and attempted to flee on foot. However, K-9 “Cadet” – anxiously waiting to get out of the car – was hot on Whitaker’s “tail.” Whitaker made the foot chase a little easier for K-9 “Cadet” because Whitaker’s pants were hanging of his rear, making it difficult for [him] to run. K-9 “Cadet” was able to secure Whitaker without incident. The incident was captured on dash cam video.

Some in Ocala are worried that the two inch rule will be difficult for officers to enforce.

Ocala City Attorney Patrick Gilligan said, “We are not looking to charge people, but if they don’t comply, I think the chief will tell police officers to take your phone out and take a picture.”

With the picture, a judge would be able to make a decision, he added.

Howard Gunn, a former Marion county Teacher, does care for the ordinance. He said he feels it will target black boys.

“Most of these kids you are dealing with are ones that have probably been in jail or are going to jail,” Gunn said. “A lot of times they are going through things. And we slap this on them, they are going to go further.”

The kids are going to say something to you because they don’t know the law,” Gunn said about the police. “And then, there you go. Escalation. Now you have an assault on a police officer.”

Rich said it is common sense and youth should not be wearing their pants sagging to the ground in the first place. She went on to say that the ordinance is not profiling.

It’s disrespectful,  referring to saggy pants. “If you pull them up, you might be a better citizen because you may be able to find a job, J.O.B,” Rich said.

If the ordinance is broken, a person could face up to sixty days in jail and/or a $500 fine. The city indicated six months in jail, however the offence would be a second degree misdemeanor. And as described in Florida Statutes 775 – 896, a second degree misdemeanor is only punishable by up to 60 days in jail and/or a fine not to exceed $500.

“Plumbers crack” is no exception to the rule.

Gilligan said that service professionals will receive a warning on the first offense just like everyone else if it becomes an issue.

Officials said that a reasonable person can tell the difference between a service professional doing their job and someone just walking around with their pants to their knees.

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[Updated July 17, 2014 at 2:25 p.m.]

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  • john1967

    IT’S ABOUT TIME…wait, what’s that I hear..the NAACP crying …

  • Lexa Kirk

    “it is no secret that this type of culture is linked to drugs, gangs and other criminal activity” I’m glad it’s no secret, since that means you should be able to provide sources to back it up.

    “If you pull them up, you might be a better citizen because you may be able to find a job, J.O.B,” this is the most patronizing sentence I have ever read. Assuming anyone that has clothing not meeting your tastes doesn’t have a job? I literally can’t believe that you’re equating how high the belt of someone’s pants are to being a good citizen. I think you might have missed a few days in statistics class, since you obviously never learned that correlation does not equal causation. Did you know that the rise of motorcycle incidents has risen at the same rate as sour cream consumption from 2001-2009? Please ban sour cream, as it is causing motorcycle accidents.

    Also, saying that another good reason to ban a style of pants is due to “potential hip or joint problems”. I think you should also take a look at how bras and high heels cause several more body malformations and physiological problems. Pregnancy can also cause severe long-term health problems. Caffeine alters the chemistry in the brain, causes addiction, and changes a body’s natural level of homeostasis. Please ban all of the above along with saggy pants.

    • Trep

      All I got from your rant is, damn I can’t show my ass to people that don’t want to see it.

      I live in Ocala and I hate seeing ass crack. Not to mention the guys who wear their pants so low you can see the outline of their Johnsons. How about our children? Do you think it’s okay to show your ass or Johnson to them while standing in a line at a store? I suppose you do. I’m all for the new law. Try not to get a ticket pal.

      • Chadwick Pendragon

        All i got from your responce is, “I am such a weakling, that I cannot advert my eyes from things that displease me”. Is anyone dieing? Is anyone’s mind being destoryed? HECK, if anything, these retards that DO wear pants around their knees, make it easier to catch by police, if they are breaking the law. I am not for LAWS telling people how to dress, however, they can tell you to atleast cover your privates. It’s unsanitary. That’s it. Unsanitary. That I see as being a reason for a law, but because people like you don’t think it’s fassionable? That is a reason to start arresting people? So we just made our law enforcment division the fassion police, because of people like you. LMAO. Pathetic, honestly.

        You wanna know the kicker? YOU’RE the one PAYING for this law. Each one arrested, your taxes, each one charged by a cop, on your taxes…….each peice of paper waisted for this stupid law, less oxigen for you. What a serious waste of time and money. YOU may want to spend your hard earned cash on causes like this, but how about doing it through some campaign to buy clothes that fit? Why do you children need so many laws? Obviously, you have no idea how the Judicial system and Law Enforcement divisions thrive in todays society.
        It’s not through doing the job right, it’s by making laws like these, to suck up YOUR money, and put it in thier pockets.

        Be careful what laws you endorce, for in the end, you’re the one paying for them. i would rather pay to stop murder, rape, and theft……not fassion design.

  • john1967

    HMM.. I see some of the people complaining about this already have a criminal record with kids that have one foot in the door of the jail. go figure.

    • Chadwick Pendragon

      Those without criminal backgrounds should also challenge this law. I do, and I have a flawless record. I have whitnessed my brothers life be ruined from FALSE charges, and laws that were corrupted for wealth. My brother is a sex offender, for dating a girl he had seen for 2 years, as soon as he turned 18, and graduated highschool. He was dating a 16 year old, the moment of his arrest and trial. If you call that his fault, then I say anyone who is dating anyone over or under thier age is also laible for this law. And that would mean Hef of Play boy will serve life, and I would rather enjoy that.

      If you cry babies need laws to take care of the bad things your virgin little eyes have seen, then get the fuck out of the USA. Grow up, and ignore the ass cracks and underware. I do. It’s easy. You know why? Because i don’t care enough to care. You guys are obviously obessed with it, hence why you look at it. The opposite to love is indifference……not hate. you have to care about something to hate it.

      Save the laws for more important things, like murder, rape, theft, and aything that actually causes harm to someone else, or threatens their life. Other than that, it’s not a form of justice, it’s corruption.

  • Nate Estlund

    LOL racial profiling. LOL…the law will hinder their development. Damn libtards. Listen….if they are dressing like this their development is already hindered. Makes me sick to hear people appealing this.

    • john1967

      BAHAHA…completely agree..I cracked up when I read that..

  • What a joke

    Waste of time. What about the old people who drive on one way streets or driving period! It’s ok for a 75 yrs old man to operate a motor vehicle and kill a kid, But he gets a warning, ticket and still keeps his license. . Ha ha bologna!

    • Ashalayy

      yessssssss. i agree with him up there ^^^^^ and just because your pants are below your waste does not mean that you are in a gang.

  • Shane Enloe

    Stupidi doopity do why can’t they make people complete their damn job they just worry about how people dress…. Dedededaaaaaaay yippittyyiiyaaah smh our stores suck

    • https://twitter.com/TrotlineDesigns Ron

      Just taking a guess.. you didn’t bother to ‘complete’ high school did you?

      • Trep

        You nailed it!

  • Damsan

    I can’t believe that not one of our council people had the common sense to vote against such a ridiculous waste of time and resources when our community is drowning with the abuse of Meth… this is what our community better concentrate on.. and not just tossing users in jail but find a way to get this out of our community for good!

  • Lisa M E

    Best Law Ever! They need this in Washington State!

  • SaraSadiemom

    It makes me sick seeing someones butt. I think it is gross. I am not “old” but I don’t want to see it. Makes me want to pull them up all the way or down all the way.

  • Chadwick Pendragon

    Laws, laws, and more laws. Lets make so many laws that no one can think for themselves. I don’t want to see ass in public, male or female. However, i would never ask for a LAW on that. Laws are not here for petty crap like this. And yes, it’s petty. Who has died or been caused serious harm from seeing ass or underwear in public? No one, so that does not fall under law enforcement. PERIOD. Stores and such have FULL rights to state that they will not service you if you have no shirt, no shoes, or your underwear is showing……that I am fine with. But to look to the Judicial Branch, Law Enforcement branch, and so on to ENFORCE through TICKETS AND JAIL, such stupid laws, is nothing more than a money making scheme. The more busts, the more money THESE already corrupt and abusive branches get.

    When did law step out of the Protecting people’s lives, into “telling you how to live and breath”?

    If any of you think this law is “correct form of justice” then please, move out of this country and move to communist China, or Russia. The departments of Justice and Law need to be challenged already for the extremely high amount of abuse, corruption, and senseless laws designed ONLY for money. Congressmen and women support these laws, because the Judicial branch and Law enforcement branches, and all those who supply them with beds, clothes, uniforms, and so are all LOBBIESTS to these poloticians. Sure they will vote for more laws, the Judicial branches want more things to prosicute. Have to keep thier Judges and Lawyers busy and paid.

    Be careful what you ask your government to enforce, all in all, in the end, it will cost you.

  • Tim Ovitt

    I would like to understand the reason why it is that pants are worn baggy and showing your boxer shorts. Is there a statement behind it? It certainly doesn’t look cool and the walk you have to do wearing them is certainly not cool. I could see if it was a fad that started on the street but it started with prison wear. So is it cool now to look like a convict, and why would you want to look like a convict to begin with?

  • yeahok

    What is this First Amendment you’re talking about? I never heard of no Freedom of Expression. You will wear what I let you to wear or you will face the consequences.

  • NC WindGroup

    People are so stupid. Despite my disdain for seeing others dressed inappropriately in public, how can this law be constitutional? Since when are laws written on the basis of whether or not an act simply offends someone else? Sure, exposing certain naked parts of the body is unacceptable, but that is clearly not what we are talking about here, otherwise people would have already been charged under the indecent exposure laws. To create a brand new shiny law just for underwear? Please. I can drive down the highway and see about a dozen underwear ads where men and women are almost completely naked. In fact, they even add a little “bulge” to the male models to increase the sex appeal. Kids stare at it, old people see it, and no one says a word. So give me a break. If you’re going to make up new crimes, at least be responsible in doing so by covering all bases for fairness. This is just irresponsible. Rewrite your law and call me in the morning.

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